‘Hard Fork’ Live, Part 1: Satya Nadella and Cindy Cohn

This week and next we’re bringing you footage from our second ever live recording session in San Francisco. First, we sit down with Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella to hear what he’s maxing out his AI tokens for, why he’s skeptical that software developers will ever be fully replaced, and how he hopes to create a new business model for Xbox. Then Phil Mohun tells us what it was like to watch people in the Bay Area interact with two robotic dogs wearing the faces of Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg. And finally, we talk to longtime privacy advocate Cindy Cohn about how things stand in the fight to protect Internet users from digital surveillance by Big Tech and the government.

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“Hard Fork” is hosted by Kevin Roose and Casey Newton and produced by Rachel Cohn and Whitney Jones. This episode was edited by Vjeran Pavic. Engineering by Alyssa Moxley and original music by Dan Powell, Elisheba Ittoop, Diane Wong, Marion Lozano and Rowan Niemisto. Fact-checking by Caitlin Love.

Special thanks to Paula Szuchman, Pui-Wing Tam, Brooke Minters, and Dahlia Haddad.