
This week, between the president’s talks in China and a potential executive order, we discuss why the Trump administration appears to be changing its stance on AI security. Then, Nikesh Arora, CEO of Palo Alto Networks, the world’s largest cybersecurity company, will give us a first-hand account of where we stand in the Internet security race. And finally, we run through some of the week’s wildest headlines in a Hot Mess Express roundup.
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“Hard Fork” is hosted by Kevin Roose and Casey Newton and produced by Whitney Jones and Rachel Cohn. This episode was edited by Vjeran Pavic. Engineering by Chris Wood and original music by Dan Powell, Elisheba Ittoop and Rowan Niemisto. Fact-checking by Caitlin Love.
Special thanks to Paula Szuchman, Pui-Wing Tam, and Dahlia Haddad.





